By Associate Professor Thom van Dooren, Dr Catherine Price and Professor Daniel Blumstein. In a far ranging conversation over two days, we explored topics that included the potential forms of distress and perhaps even trauma that might accompany the use of ‘aversive stimuli’ (like unpleasant sounds and painful experiences) that are sometimes used to condition animals to avoid particular places or resources; the broad and often unequal impacts on local communities who are at the coalface of conservation and wildlife management programs, and so can bear much of the risk of experimental efforts to modify animal behaviour (for example, programs that use hazing to keep lions away from human communities); and the unintended or unacknowledged ‘non-target’ animals who might be caught up in these behaviour-based management interventions, and the difficulty of determining who they will be in advance. Her research aims to solve conservation and wildlife management challenges using animal behaviour