The conversations touched on the war in Ukraine, where the Pope said he does not see "a short-term end to it since it is a world war," the cases of abuse by clergy, the role of women in the Roman Curia (where he says "within two years a woman will head a Dicastery"), Benedict XVI's 2013 resignation, and his own possible resignation.The two ABC interviewers asked if the Pope wished this to be known, and the Pope said, "that's why I'm telling you," recalling that Paul VI had also left his resignation in writing in the event of health issues, and Pius XII had probably done so as well.There is enormous cruelty.Abuse cases Answering a question on the cases of sexual abuse by the clergy, the Pope says, "it is very painful, very painful," when referring to his meetings with victims that have taken place during his pontificate.Benedict XVI: a saint, a great man Speaking on the relationship with his predecessor Benedict XVI, Pope Francis described him as "a saint" and "a man of great spiritual life", revealing that he visits with him often and always feels "edified" by his transparent gaze."